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Signs Of Madness: Clint Eastwood Compares Beyonce To Ella Fitzgerald
Written by Trent | Filed under Beyonce
If there is one thing with which all of Hollywood could agree is that Beyonce is anything but original. After being heralded as the next Tina Turner by Kanye West and the second coming of Michael Jackson by her husband Jay-Z, the singer has been cast in the molds of two other great artists – Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughan.
Speaking to Les Inrocks about his upcoming projects, Clint Eastwood revealed a fascination with Beyonce, with whom he will be working in the upcoming remake of ‘A Star is Born’. The noted director claimed that she offered to “write” material for the movie’s soundtrack but he intends to introduce her to the fundamentals of Jazz music so that she could realise her potential to become the next Fitzgerald or Vaughan.
Read what the 81-year old Eastwood had to say about Beyonce below as we ponder whether his age has started to affect his brain:
Did you discuss music with Beyonce, that we will see in your next film, a remake of ‘A Star is Born’?
She asked if she could write stuff for the movie, I said yes, great. But I also told her I would make one or two things very classical. Still classicism. But I don’t want Beyonce to be too classic! She has a superb voice. She could become a new Sarah Vaughan or the next Ella Fitzgerald. She has the same class. I dont know if she knows their music, but I intend to do a good education for the movie!
Beyonce has yet to even film a scene for ‘A Star is Born’ and the propaganda has begun already? Yet, before we get dismissive or defensive, let’s review some key points.
Fitzgerald was not known for having the most amazing voice with power and range in the league of Barbra Streisand or Aretha Franklin but she was quite adept at using tricky vocal styles and arrangements. In that sense, the parallels between her and Beyonce are understandable because the latter’s voice does sound a bit average when compared to the greatest voices of today, such as Christina Aguilera, but she is has a clear understanding of her instrument. If you doubt me then ask any random person on the street to choose the better voice between Beyonce and Aguilera.
However, what made Fitzgerald and Vaughan so magnificent was that they were never repetitive or scripted. Both women found brilliant new ways interpreting ever piece of music that left listeners constantly guessing what they might do next. Beyonce, on the other hand, has been using the same ‘Crazy in Love’ vocal runs since 2007 and even had a teleprompter to cue her every move during the ‘Live at Roseland’ shows.
The real issue that arises from Eastwood’s statements is the fact that people don’t see the potential in Beyonce to be an original. Unlike Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey, who were only compared to other artists at the beginning of their careers and not 15 years after their respective debuts, Beyonce is always viewed as a faint shadow of someone else; a diet-Michael Jackson with some of the talent and none of the originality.
Yes, Beyonce’s fans will probably throw a tantrum and share every Wikipedia quote that they could find but that won’t dismiss this disturbing trend. The again, perhaps Beyonce only has herself to blame. She is the person who always claims to be “inspired” by someone else after all.
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OOOOOOooooooooooo SHIT! *grabs popcorn*
Clint is clearly knocking at Deaf Man’s Door.
Clint Eastwood is old enough to know better to compare jazz legends to an R&B singer. All (Black) artists do not create “R&B” music. Yeah I don’t see it for this quote.
P.S: Leave Trent lone. He is getting money and he didnt get fired. He quit.
Only a fool of a journalist with either the intent to gain hits or an alterior dislike for an artist who could care less about his coconut hut in trinidad, would turn a compliment from a legend into a full blown stan war. The ONLY “advantage” an untrained ear or hater would think Aguilera possesses
vocally over Beyonce is that contrived soulful grunt and yodel Christina misuses as she oversings everything. Lava lizard or whatever nonsense you call yourself; your personal vendetta against the Beyonce stans is clouding your integrity. Try again.
@BetterDavisEyes BUT Trent clearly compared Beyonce and Christina’s VOICE not their SINGING. He even put it in italics. You use a lot of big words for somebody who can’t read.
The only mistake Clint made is that Jazz and R&B artists shouldnt be compared. However, he’s likely heard music from the films score that you have yet to hear Trent. Beyonce has been recording for the movie for a while now. None of us know what shes done vocally with this project. With that being said, to post an article comparing Beyonce to others irrelevant to the movie is juvenile and clearly coming from a place of hate;hate Ive noticed anytime something is posted regarding Beyonce on your site. And in regards to your theory, Beyonces voice may appear thinner than Christina Aguileras, but Beyonce has much better technique, pitch, range and control..watch their live performances. Lastly Trent, please grow up.
LOL LOL LOL @ that GIF!!!
For real though, Clint must be going senile. Beyonce is basic compared to those singers. She is GOOD but average next to them.
LOL @ the teleprompter comment!! Trent you are a messsssssssss LOLLLL
Ms.Boss read between the lines and spot cattiness and opportunity. Trent wet dreams about Beyonce news as she is guaranteed hot topic resulting in blog hits and revenue. Everything from the picture he chose to the unabashed shade. A Christina comparison in any regard was irrelevant, just like you are to me.
Without a doubt, Beyoncé reigns supreme as one of the most leading ladies of the past 15 years. Despite the legal hiccups and writing controversies, her talent can’t be denied. It seemed to me as if Clint was complimenting her and referencing her towards those jazz vocalist. It’s a part of Trent’s job to stir the pot a bit to get readers riled up. This didn’t bother me one bit.
Lmaoooooo @MsBoss
Read’em down girl
I am reading all these comments and I am thinking, if Beyonce was reading this, I think she would have ended her career.
@BetteDavisEyes “read between the lines”?? Trent was VERY clear with his points in this post and THAT is what bothers you. Unlike other FRUIT bloggers who kiss ass or give backhanded compliments, Trent keeps it REAL!
Of course Trent writes to get hits and revenue. THIS IS A BLOG YOU FOOL! Is that the purpose of running a website? TO GET PAID? Woooooooow you people are so stupid. You can’t argue his points so you try to attack the boy’s character.
Keep being YOU Trent! I love this site because of who YOU are! GREAT writing, GREAT music knowledge, GREAT person!
Folks this is a blog, not a fansite. If you want 24/7 worshipping of Beyonce or any other artist please visit their fansites. Trent shade my faves all the time, but I get that this is his blog, and people have their own opinions, nothing wrong with that.This is a blog for people with varying opinions, get over it.
LavaLizard wasnt it just yestetday you demeaned Aguileras vocals on twitter for her comparisons to Houston,Carey and Fitzgerald? Now when it comes to Beyonce, Aguilera is “the voice”. As idiotic as it is to compare the two based on Eastwoods compliment, Beyonce is a better singer and has a better voice. I refuse to let PROPAGANDA lead me ti belueve Christinas voice ia more than what it is. Disagree? Watch her live.
Can we get into the fact that Clint Eastwood simplified Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughan’s technical singing abilities by comparing Beyonce to them? She is incapable of a variety of their own skills. How do you simplify someones talent, by saying Kelly Clarkson is as good as Aretha Franklin, who did it? Simon Cowell… Not that his opinion is too valid but yeah, look at the content in which Clint Eastwood was comparing Beyonce to. Jazz legends…really Clint? Groundbreaking Jazz legends? Ugh.
Ms.Boss your reads are as ridiculous as this post. You have YET to state your opinion on the unwarranted debate he incited. Beyonce is indeed a great vocalist and performer. NO ONE has heard any material from the movie that may have solicited the comparisons. For Trent to question the mans senility because he compared Beyonce to Fitzgerald is foolish. Now Dispute that, hag.
@BetteDavisEyes I AGREE with Trent. If I disagreed I would have said that! CLEARLY you can’t read because Clint said that that they are still in the planning stages.
Trent this is spot on! I agree 10000000%
I do love Beyonce though. Her version fo Anita Baker’s Sweet Love is everything!
LMAO! I’m dying at some people’s comments.
You know, Clint Eastwood is a fantastic actor and he has made some great movies -ie Grand Torino- so I respect him as an actor/director. I think he was just trying to be nice, no need to take his words like the guy’s being senile or something.
Stans should relax, the fact that you go crazy for someone who doesn’t give a damn about you is ridiculous.
And that gif…. I CANNOT!!!
yawns*
CLEARLY clint is praising beyonce’s talent. Her ways lack originality but that’s not the issue. He compared her TALENT to some of the greats. Just as you pointed out, beyonce just like ella fitzgerald has an average voice but a great understanding on how to use it (which puts her above aguilera).
My question is though, how is this propaganda? :s.. Beyonce is being praised for her talent by somebody else and you call it signs of madness?
There’s no doubt she’s unoriginal but you constantly try to deny or dilute her talent. Anything to stir things up and get the stans talking as usual.
It’s always the same ‘beyonce is unoriginal bla bla’ write up.. We know, that’s what it is with this generation. It’s played out now, you say it after every article about her. Find some other constructive criticism or keep it moving.
Im all for respecting Fitzgerald and Vaughn as greats, but to say Beyonce isnt capable of at least even imitating their technique is ridiculous. Most good singers can and do.We’re talking about Beyonce here, not Rihanna. Lets remember that if you took away the dancers, fans and sequins and gave her a stool and a mic, Beyonce would still kill it vocally.
And furthermore, what does LavaLizard have against Beyonce? Yes this is a blog, not a fansite, but blatant shade is obvious.
Exactly, what does a lack of originality or Christina Aguilera have to do with Clint Eastwood obviously stating that Beyonce is a very talented vocalist? Bored or pressed by stans , Lavalizard..which one?
Nobody says the lava lizard has to kiss ass or anything like that. But he/she constantly tries to always oppose everything, just to be different. All in the name of giving ‘honest opinion’.
Your analysis on his comments is so stretched. You’ve made it look like eastwood was kissing beyonce’s ass or overrating her.
He gave he gave a compliment which simply read that woman is talented and she can do a lot of things. Which is true.
He is Clint Eastwood, he doesn’t need to kiss beyonce’s ass for anything. Calling it ‘propaganda’ and ‘signs of madness’ is disrespectful not opinionated.
SHE COULD BECOME…am I the only one who read this???? This was clearly done for hits…I guess Trent and Sam aren’t all that different after all.
Oh yeah…FUCK U TRENT.
Let me keep this classy for the love of Trent: Sir, how do you manage to take such a compliment and completely belittle Beyoncé? I understand that you have your preconceived opinion about her but you practically reduced her to nothing and it THAT is becoming a littlr redundant on your behalf. You seem very knowledgeable and articulate with your opinion but you should learn a the fine line of bias. That’s one reason you will continue on the same level as TGJ
Oooh typos! Sorry.
Its ALL done in the name of hits..hidden behind a “honest and unbiased” point of view…such a sneaky blogger. Unfortunately the sneakiness usually demeans the reputation of Beyonce who I feel is a great artist and one of the best we have vocally. Im a huge Ella fanatic and not once did Eastwood say Beyonces voice was better than anyone, but she does have great technique. I come to this blog for the great information and musical insight, but posts like this are a turn off.
I love Beyonce like cooked food, but Trent is right. Beyonce has become incredibly repetitive. She performs ‘Crazy In love’ the exact same way that she always has. Her last few concerts have just been mirror images of one another with different settings and outfits. She’s an amazing performer but she lacks what Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughn had which was a sense of originality.
Signs of Madness? How dare you belittle Clint Eastwood suggesting senility because he paid an artist a great compliment? Nothing is propaganda until irresponsible bloggers such as yourself get a hold of it and twist it into something its not. Im sure he’s also comparing her vocal ability, persona, presence and class; things we all know she possesses. Youre very bitter towards Beyonce for some reason. Its pretty unattractive as a reader looking for a reliable music source. Me and my friends dont dislike Beyonce unlike the readers you obviously cater to.
‘SHE COULD BECOME…am I the only one who read this???? This was clearly done for hits…I guess Trent and Sam aren’t all that different after all.’…
@KD. exactly. nothing outrageous about Eastwood’s comments..
I’m a really huge fan of Eastwood, I just find this offensive. Nothing he said was ridiculous, you only exaggerated his comments. He may be old but he aint senile
And trust me no beyonce stans will come here with any wikipedia quote to rant about rubbish, most comments make sense and are saying the same thing.
LOL ‘Diet michael jackson’ made me laugh.. Well at least Beyonce can be compared to MJ regardless, how many artists of today can you call a ‘diet michael jackson’? I’ll wait. haa *Walks off*
As if Beyonce is worried about what a little blogger is writing about her…to the left, to the left
I also love how your “unbiased” blog used a picture which is a direct opposite of an image that would intrigue any sort of mental comparison to Ella Fitzgerald by your bandwagon blog readers. The I Love New York GIF proves that the post was written to ignite a riot. I dont want to take you as a joke but its heading that way.
Diet Michael Jackson? Christina Aguilera, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey? Originality? What does ANY of that have to do with a prolific and well respected director paying compliment to a woman he, at this point knows better than ANY of us?
Ummmmmmm no shade no tea but where did Trent every claim to be “unbiased”? People, this is a motherfucking blog. It’s not that serious. This is just Trent OPINION and I agree.
Girllllllll some of you people need sex. Beyonce is not the alpha and omega.
I must be the only fan who actually agrees with Trent X_X
Judging from the comments it seems like the majority of the people are in complete disagreement with your assertion that Clint Eastwood is mad because he gave Beyonce a compliment. Nowhere in his statement does he say that Beyonce is the greatest thing since sliced bread he merely says that she possesses a similar class and has the potential to be like these two woman…nothing too far fetched about this…(Etta James/Cadillac Records anyone?). Feel free to label me a simple minded buffoon on twitter…that won’t change the fact that this post has missed the mark completely.
I agree KD.. This post does miss the mark. A hunger for hits and a personal vendetta against Beyonce stans has seemingly caused Trent to post in the likes of Sandra Rose and Mediatakeout .. with an English Degree.. Shade is like cow dung, spraying it with a cheap air freshener called rhetoric doesnt eliminate the awful smell. Clint Eastwood is FAR from senile, he’s brilliant, and you should be ashamed of yourself as a “reliable entertainment news source”.
Well said, Trent! I love how u list the obvious facts
Her crazy ass fans will never see light at the end of the tunnel.
LMFAOOOOOO AT THIS POST #TheLavaLizard look at all the fuck beyonce give about what u think 27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfrhm31…
You cant tout yourself as the #1 Source for Pop Entertainment news and then cry ” Its My Blog”. You are supposed to be an unbiased source of entertainment. I dont stan for anyone, but I certainly didn’t think I’d click on this article and see such ridiculous claims against Clint Eastwood. Wow.
Trent’s right.
But I don’t think Clint is senile. He’s being complimentary. I can name ten singer/songwriter/vocalists that could legitimately be compared to a Vaughn, a Fitzgerald or a Wilson. But alas, none of those ten are prepped to star in Clint’s movie.
Keep it moving, folks.
Bias is relative. First you choose WHAT to report then you choose HOW to report it. Thats the difference. Clearly this person has something against Beyonce, but I just know to read elsewhere. No biggie!
Lawd Trent reading Beyonce while she in recovery.from.the baby! But we.can’t deny.that.she talks like she’s chewing.cotton balls, stopped “writing” after.Survivor era and has yet to make any ground breaking material or videos. And yes xtina has.the better voice but Bey has better technique
Clint Eastwood Certainly did direct “Bird”, the 1988 biopic of Jazz musician Charlie “Bird” Parker. He knows Jazz. We all know Beyonce is a great vocalist and in my opinion better than Christina Aguilera’s strained grunts and groans. Give her a chance to show her vocal growth and ability in this movie before slandering her in the name of blog hits and shadiness. Geesh!
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beyonce should never be listed in the same sentence as Ellar or Sarah! How old is Clint again? 90…yeah!
I won’t argue about who has a better voice our of Xtina and Beyonce. They are both great vocalist. But i will say this…having a great voice means nothing if you can’t control it. And thats something Xtina CLEARLY lacks. And its always her downfall.
The comparison is apples and oranges but Clint said she COULD not she is on their level , sounds like an opinon.
He is simply promoting his movie.
“Bias is relative. First you choose WHAT to report then you choose HOW to report it. Thats the difference. Clearly this person has something against Beyonce, but I just know to read elsewhere. No biggie!”
JT, I love this comment
Well we can add Clint to the list of Legends who acknowledge Bey’s greatness
…and the fact of the matter is….. everyone is STILL going to watch the movie! Love her or hate her, she’s entertaining and keeps your attention. Still the most popular entertainer of the 2000s-now 
Why do people keep giving all these old school artist the originality stamp. Why do you think we have all these copyright laws today? No knocking or hating but artist back in the day would still your song, your style, and your sound then perform in front of you. Today you cant wear the same outfit or use the same beat with out a youtube clip of the “original”
Random Guy Of The Street Say’s: Christina Aguilera
Oh Dear….I don’t know what to say :S
I have to agree… Beyonce’s voice is mediocre compared to the legends. Christina’s been compared to Etta James, Mariah, Whitney and other legends even before in her debut years. I think Clint Eastwood is only saying this to build up Beyonce because of their upcoming movie.
trent i have always known tht u uneducated nw i have prof you go aroun caling beyonce unoriginal but you the biggest fraud of all you did not come up with this article you practically copied and pasted 80% of this you fake ass here is proof people http://bossip.com/526740/in-well-meaning-white-folks-news-clint-eastwood-says-he-wants-to-make-beyonce-the-next-sarah-vaughn-or-ella-fitzgerald-43081/
@advocate LOLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you notice that Bossip credited Trent as the source?? They got it from him!! LOLLLLLLl I am crying!!
@advocate *dies* Trent didn’t steal that from Bossip. Bossip took it from Trent and they even linked him *dies over and over*
You only provided proof that Beyonce stans are stupid.
Im a Beyonce stan and im far from stupid. This article still remains one of the mosr ridiculous Ive read on this site. Clint Eastwood complimenting Beyonce saying she could become the next Fitzgerald did not warrant questions of originality and comparisons to Christina Aguilera, of All people. It came across as gratuitous shade and an unapologetic ploy for hits. Eastwood is far from senile. Your distaste for Beyonce stans should never affect your journalistic integrity. Looking forward to the film and soundtrack.
@advocate You’re calling some uneducated but you can’t spell or use correct grammar. Go run along and take your on your run-on sentence with you
Thanks for the laugh though.
* typo alert
From Clint Eastwood’s quote it seems he’s referring to Fitzgerald & Vaughn’s level of class, not their voices. So Aguilera (who’s technique pales in comparison to Beyonce’s) comparisons are irrelevant anyway.
Beyonce stans are pathetic. Trent was talking about the tone of their singing voices. Beyonce is a skilled singer with a basic voice. Christina’s overall voice in terms of quality is far greater than Beyonce’s. Once she gets her technique together which she is working on she’ll be that much better as a whole. Shut up Bey stans y’all run y’all trap about everyone else. This piece is more or less about Sarah/Ella being original, their tones being unique/great. Certain points were illustrated.
Oh dear, Bey stans are so easily pressed! I love me some Beyonce but sheesh, it’s just a blog, get a grip! Good Lord!
Trent loves to write dirt then hide his hands. Wolf in Sheeps clothing. You knew exactly what you were doing with this article; why play coy now? Beyonce is a great vocalist. The woman just turned 30. Does she have the ability to one day sing like greats such as Fitzgerald & Vaughn who produced amazing vocals into their elderly years? Yes she does. Just because Christina oversouls and oversings doesnt make her a better singer. Put her & Beyonce on a stage together with a mic and a light, Im sure a lot of you would be surprised by the outcome.
I dont see what the big deal is with what was said, but I also dont see the hype in Christina Aguilera’s voice. She’s been deemed “the voice” of our generation which in my opinion is quite laughable. Every time she
performs live its a strain fest of pitchy notes and destroyed riffs & runs. Why the two were even compared, I have no idea but either way it wasnt relevant to Clint Eastwoods comments about Beyonce having potential to be the same class of singer as Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughn; alot of great singers are. Christina not being one of them.
Some people just cant take Beyonce, so any compliment paid will be unnecessarily ridiculed and dissected. Clearly this blog being one of them. Clint Eastwood is not senile and he knows what he’s talking about. You would think he compared Rihanna or Ciara by the tide of the argument. We all know Beyonce can really sing, whether she is original or not has nothing to do with that fact. Either way Im sure she could care less. Congrats Beyonce! Looking forward to the film!
I think because Beyonce is such a flamboyant entertainer on stage, people often forget she is an amazing vocalist as well. Given any style of form of music including Jazz Im sure Beyonce could execute effortlessly and flawlessly. including elements of Jazz such as scat which she showcased in Las Vegas. People need to get off her back and give her props as one of the greatest in mainstream music we have now. Unless you all are content with Rihanna?
@Mitchell Wilson, what the fuck are you talking about? Where did Trent hide his hands? The view from up inside Beyonce ass must be clouding your vision
Some of you clearly need to take an English class. Don’t you all know what italics are used for. Trent was clearly saying that Xtina has the overall better VOICE than Beyonce, which is true.
Right! its Clint Eastwood’s opinion of a great vocalist. What Christina Aguilera has to do with it, I dont know. Especially since Christina is definitely not in the league of Fitzgerald or Vaughn herself. Its Trent’s usual and unnecessary attempt at shading Beyonce. Absolutely nothing new. Get Money Bitch. By any means.
I’m not even ppl get so upset when people prasie Beyonce. And for the Record he’s talking the way she’s singing the songs on the soundtrack you BIG FOOL! Beyonce is the Standard FACE IT!
Blue Ivy Carter gon whoop yo ass Trent.
whether trent shades beyonce or not she still gets paid and will continue to do what she does and she doesn’t even know trent exists and i see trent is trying to become the new mediatakeout
Trent is VERY pressed by Beyonce clearly, for some silly reason.. lol. Sounds like A Star is Born will have a heavy Jazz influence. This will be GREAT to hear Beyonce tackle Jazz stylings. There was a taste of that in her Wynn Vegas performance. Let’s hope so! Oh and Christina Aguilera in a live vocal performance? NO!.. I dont care how much better her VOICE is, her technique is trash. Looking forward to seeing the movie! Clint Eastwood is a BEAST!
Ok… as was long suspected 90% of Beyonce stans CAN’T READ because many people have pointed out Trent was saying Christina has a better VOICE not TECHNIQUE but still stans go on about how Xtina oversings or Beyonce has great controll… Christina has a more powerful and wide ranging voice than Beyonce, Like you have all been saying all beyonce has on her is CONTROLL and incase you didn’t notice Xtina has been seeing a vocal coach and since she started her performances have been AMAZING with great controll and hitting notes Beyonce couldn’t dream of so…
As for the article, everything Trent says about Bey being unoriginal and still an immitator is TRUE but i do think he blew Clint’s comments out of proportion.
Eastwood is clearly getting senile. As far the comparaison…What a SHAME! Are you kidding me ? how can these people honestly compared such a talented artist like Ella with a manufactured, copy-cat and TALENTLESS texas prom princess ??? Really ??? I don’t call someone who systematically steal copyrighted worked from others an “artist”. Someone who’s been sued numerous NUMEROUS time for copy infringement! She’s also been seen on video LAUGHING OUT LOUD about not being invited to some award show because as SHE stated ” they know we’re going to STEAL their stuff” !!!
Give me a fucking break. It’s not because someone is a media whore and on TV that it makes them talented. In this case we could say that Vanilla Ice is a genius, that all the boys bands are incredibly musically relevant and lastly that David Hasselhoff is as talented and successful as Michael Jackson (he was and still is after a HUGE STAR in Germany and a lot of asian country). When his plane touch down there the crown go crazy, a total pandemonium.
If she is a “talented artist”..THEN ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE TOO!
Clint has a movie to remake again. Barbara study the greats. Ella, Sara, ect area Jazz singers accompany by live jazz band who scatts not runs without gimmics of machines ie microphones. These legends didn’t have to be half naked to be heard wore beautiful gowns all the time. Beyonce is great in her art form pop lock and drop it. Anyone can be a star. Put them in the machine
Like Christina and Beyonce.. They are the only two artist that i personally think who has actual talent this past few years…in 2011 Adele is an additional to them both. I personally think beyonce have the better technique.. But the Voice of Christina Aguilera is Greater.